Tobi is not Madara/6th coffin is Madara 100% proven in 4 logical steps.
1. Kabuto calls him Tobi, and then says sorry you go by Madara these days.
2. Kabuto shows Tobi the coffin and tells Tobi that he can't refuse him. Kabuto's 6th coffin holds someone Tobi can't defeat and can't be known to exist.
3. Kabuto reassures Tobi that he hasn't told anyone yet.
4. Kabuto tells Tobi by addressing him as Uchiha Madara: Uchiha Madara was in a class of his own, and Tobi replies "wise guy" meaning that Kabuto isn't paying Tobi a compliment but saying that his deguies was a very logical choice.
This all means that Tobi is not Madara, and Kabuto knows it, and more importantly Tobi knows Kabuto knows it now after seeing the 6th coffin.
Madara Uchiha is the 6th coffin, proven 100%
100% is a joke, but logically this is as close to that as you can get.
Danzo is not in the box, because Tobi does not fear Danzo, even when he was right infront of him, he wouldn't give Kabuto leverage over Tobi.
*Uchiha Madara is given respect, and the villages are afraid to go against him with the biiju's because of it being him, I think if they knew he wasn't Madara, Naruto and Bee would be fighting against Akatsuki, and that would be too much for Akatsuki to handle, which is why Tobi goes by Madara, this guy is a master minipulator, I don't understand why he has to be Madara for all these uchiha fans, it's more cool if he is an imposter to the story.*
*Added- 5/8/2010
I don't believe Tobi is Uchiha Madara because:
1. 200+ chapters he has worn a mask.
2. He has shown no simularities to Uchiha Madara, no powers, no weapons, only thing he has shown us is a Sharingan, but refuses to show his MS design.
3. Uchiha Madara would have no reason to have fake limbs after VotE. (the picture shows his only fatal wound as a sword through the chest.
4. Kabuto probably has Uchiha Madara in the 6th coffin, as the only possible Secret I can think of that Tobi would share with Kabuto after simply seeing the body and without a word spoken about it.
5. According to the tablet at the Uchiha hide out, anyone with MS can control the Kyuubi.
6. Itachi calls Uchiha Madara a shell of his former self, pointing to Tobi being an imposter.
7. MS has shown to activate without the death of a best friend. It seems to activate in impossibly emotional situations.
8. Using Uchiha Madara's name would be very benificial to the imposter, as everyone would fear him. This is actually shown in the second kage meeting, when it is said that the reason the 8 and 9 tails aren't allowed to be used in the war is because they are up against Uchiha Madara.
9. Everyone who declares him Uchiha Madara could easily be lying or are clearly guessing (like kakashi).
10. He keeps taking off his mask, but at this point there is no need for one.
* as of chapter 500
11. He seems physically smaller and gives an impression of being shorter during the Kyuubi attack 16 years ago.
I believe him to be:
Uchiha Shisui: This is my best guess at who Tobi really is.
1. Shisui the mirage, and Shisui the body flicker, would be nice names for Tobi's powers.
2. Was the most powerful Uchiha at the time of his supposed death.
3. Age Unknown. (but is more then likely older then Itachi, as Shisui was Itachi's mentor and comrad, we also know that Tobi was Itachi's teacher.)
4. Eye missing and atleast his right arm is gone thanks to Danzo.
5. Has the power to minipulate people's hearts. (Tobi has shown this same power on Sasuke.)
6. Tobi has a history with Danzo, that Danzo didn't show any signs of knowing. (Zetsu made sure to point out that Danzo isn't their friend.)
7. Tobi doesn't act like someone who is very powerful, instead he acts as if he needs to minipulate very strong people to do his bidding.
8. AO puts him in the mist, and could of easily been the one who controled the 3 tail host, the Mizukage. (AO both fought Shisui, and chased off the person controlling the Mizukage)
9. I believe Itachi joined Akatsuki before the Uchiha Massacre, meaning he knew Tobi before it, his mentor at the time was Shisui, which would make it reasonable to assume that Shisui had something to do with Akatsuki.
10. Itachi would have no time to meet with a Uchiha Madara to learn from him with all the anbu missions and playing double agent, especially with Shisui following him around.
11. Itachi can gain MS in another manner like Kakashi has done. Unless you think Kakashi learned edo tensen just so he could kill Obito and gain MS.
2. Kabuto shows Tobi the coffin and tells Tobi that he can't refuse him. Kabuto's 6th coffin holds someone Tobi can't defeat and can't be known to exist.
3. Kabuto reassures Tobi that he hasn't told anyone yet.
4. Kabuto tells Tobi by addressing him as Uchiha Madara: Uchiha Madara was in a class of his own, and Tobi replies "wise guy" meaning that Kabuto isn't paying Tobi a compliment but saying that his deguies was a very logical choice.
This all means that Tobi is not Madara, and Kabuto knows it, and more importantly Tobi knows Kabuto knows it now after seeing the 6th coffin.
Madara Uchiha is the 6th coffin, proven 100%
100% is a joke, but logically this is as close to that as you can get.
Danzo is not in the box, because Tobi does not fear Danzo, even when he was right infront of him, he wouldn't give Kabuto leverage over Tobi.
*Uchiha Madara is given respect, and the villages are afraid to go against him with the biiju's because of it being him, I think if they knew he wasn't Madara, Naruto and Bee would be fighting against Akatsuki, and that would be too much for Akatsuki to handle, which is why Tobi goes by Madara, this guy is a master minipulator, I don't understand why he has to be Madara for all these uchiha fans, it's more cool if he is an imposter to the story.*
*Added- 5/8/2010
I don't believe Tobi is Uchiha Madara because:
1. 200+ chapters he has worn a mask.
2. He has shown no simularities to Uchiha Madara, no powers, no weapons, only thing he has shown us is a Sharingan, but refuses to show his MS design.
3. Uchiha Madara would have no reason to have fake limbs after VotE. (the picture shows his only fatal wound as a sword through the chest.
4. Kabuto probably has Uchiha Madara in the 6th coffin, as the only possible Secret I can think of that Tobi would share with Kabuto after simply seeing the body and without a word spoken about it.
5. According to the tablet at the Uchiha hide out, anyone with MS can control the Kyuubi.
6. Itachi calls Uchiha Madara a shell of his former self, pointing to Tobi being an imposter.
7. MS has shown to activate without the death of a best friend. It seems to activate in impossibly emotional situations.
8. Using Uchiha Madara's name would be very benificial to the imposter, as everyone would fear him. This is actually shown in the second kage meeting, when it is said that the reason the 8 and 9 tails aren't allowed to be used in the war is because they are up against Uchiha Madara.
9. Everyone who declares him Uchiha Madara could easily be lying or are clearly guessing (like kakashi).
10. He keeps taking off his mask, but at this point there is no need for one.
* as of chapter 500
11. He seems physically smaller and gives an impression of being shorter during the Kyuubi attack 16 years ago.
I believe him to be:
Uchiha Shisui: This is my best guess at who Tobi really is.
1. Shisui the mirage, and Shisui the body flicker, would be nice names for Tobi's powers.
2. Was the most powerful Uchiha at the time of his supposed death.
3. Age Unknown. (but is more then likely older then Itachi, as Shisui was Itachi's mentor and comrad, we also know that Tobi was Itachi's teacher.)
4. Eye missing and atleast his right arm is gone thanks to Danzo.
5. Has the power to minipulate people's hearts. (Tobi has shown this same power on Sasuke.)
6. Tobi has a history with Danzo, that Danzo didn't show any signs of knowing. (Zetsu made sure to point out that Danzo isn't their friend.)
7. Tobi doesn't act like someone who is very powerful, instead he acts as if he needs to minipulate very strong people to do his bidding.
8. AO puts him in the mist, and could of easily been the one who controled the 3 tail host, the Mizukage. (AO both fought Shisui, and chased off the person controlling the Mizukage)
9. I believe Itachi joined Akatsuki before the Uchiha Massacre, meaning he knew Tobi before it, his mentor at the time was Shisui, which would make it reasonable to assume that Shisui had something to do with Akatsuki.
10. Itachi would have no time to meet with a Uchiha Madara to learn from him with all the anbu missions and playing double agent, especially with Shisui following him around.
11. Itachi can gain MS in another manner like Kakashi has done. Unless you think Kakashi learned edo tensen just so he could kill Obito and gain MS.
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